{"id":120,"date":"2010-01-03T11:08:00","date_gmt":"2010-01-03T11:08:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/2010\/01\/03\/120\/"},"modified":"2014-03-31T20:19:47","modified_gmt":"2014-04-01T01:19:47","slug":"120","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/?p=120","title":{"rendered":"GLOBAL WARMING: CAN WE LIVE WITHOUT COMBUSTION?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In my quasi-intellectual meanderings on the global warming issue, I came across a 2009 article in the Journal of Health Science called  <a href=\"www.jstage.jst.go.jp\/article\/jhs\/55\/1\/125\/_pdf\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cPopulation is a Critical Factor for Global Carbon Dioxide Increase\u201d<\/a>.  <\/p>\n<p>The title almost says it all. But the article is still worth reading, as it is short and full of graphs that are interesting and easy to understand. <\/p>\n<p>The bottom line here is this: the more people there are on the face of the planet, the more carbon dioxide will be in the atmosphere (along with other less potent greenhouse-effect gases like methane).  As to the next proposition, that the more CO2 there is, the higher the global temps will be; and the proposition after that, i.e. the higher the global temps, the more famine, war and other calamity the human race will experience in the next 100 to 200 years; well, those propositions I don&#8217;t completely agree with at this point.  I think that they are interesting theories, and should be taken very seriously given the massive potential consequences. BUT, I don&#8217;t think that science has enough evidence at this point to sound the alarm.<\/p>\n<p>Admittedly, the \u201cinstitution of science\u201d in general disagrees with me.  In fact it is sounding the alarm.  But scientists and their institutions are still human, and are still subject to pride, ego and herd mentality.  Also, they know that they have a lot to gain economically from government and foundation grant funds if the public takes them seriously.  Thus, I think they&#8217;re being a bit premature.  The recent \u201cClimategate\u201d e-mail disclosures provide fairly good evidence that the \u201cmainstream\u201d climate scientists along with their academic and governmental employers are protesting a bit too vehemently against those renegade scientists who beg to differ with them.  Sure, those renegades often prostitute themselves to political and economic forces, i.e. the big coal, oil, power and industrial enterprises that stand to lose big $$ as governments take action against carbon buildup in the air.   But again, the \u201cmainstream\u201d isn&#8217;t so pure in that regard either.  It&#8217;s hard to know who is right.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not a scientist, but I do have some university training in physics, chemistry and math, and I maintain an interest in scientific issues into my old age.  Thus I have taken a look \u201cunder the hood\u201d of both the pro- and anti-warming presentations, and my impression is that it&#8217;s NOT clear that greenhouse gas build-ups in the atmosphere are going to cause or trigger future global disasters.  This is still a possibility, and there is enough evidence to justify a \u201cget ready just in case\u201d position.   There may in fact be future climate disasters that will NOT be caused by greenhouse gases; the world would still benefit from \u201cget ready\u201d planning efforts started today.  But as to putting significant burdens on the world&#8217;s commercial-industrial networks such that economic growth slows down and millions or even billions of people who could have come out of poverty (as is now happening in India and China and Brazil) do not; well, I don&#8217;t think we have enough evidence to go that far at this point.   <\/p>\n<p>Back to the article and the graph that I adopted from the info used in the article; it seems pretty clear to me that the more people we have on this planet, the more CO2 will be in the air.  If CO2 is pushing the world towards climate-induced disasters (which again I don&#8217;t fully agree with at this point),  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jimgworld.com\/beta\/Populatn_CO2.jpg\" align=\"right\" hspace=\"5\" vspace=\"5\" \/> and if combustion of carbon-based fuels is inherent to human life itself, then the only real remedy would be to stop  or significantly slow down population growth.  Under this viewpoint, it almost looks like \u201cMother Nature\u201d is saying \u201cstop putting so many new members of your greedy species on my turf so quickly, or I will get rid of the excess myself\u201d.  <\/p>\n<p>Of course, to adopt this viewpoint, you first need to buy into my second proposition, i.e. that combustion of carbon-based fuels is inherent to living.  Can human beings live without combustion?  For most of human history, the answer seemed to be NO.  Even ancient humans needed to burn wood for light and heat at night (and also during the day, in regions away from the tropics), and also to cook food. Unless you lived on a tropical island where you ate coconuts and raw fish, you needed fire; that fire gave off a fair amount of CO2, and the effect was made worse because in chopping down a tree for firewood, you decreased nature&#8217;s CO2 absorption capacity.  <\/p>\n<p>As modern humans developed technology and moved to different kinds of carbon fuels (coal, oil, natural gas), we could provide for the basics (heat, light) in a more efficient fashion than ancient tribes could. BUT, we started finding other uses for combustion, mainly as ways to transport ourselves along with our commerce and trade.  And then came electricity and refrigeration and air conditioning.  As such, technology in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries was a 2-edged sword regarding greenhouse gases; it burned cleaner, but found many new ways to usefully burn carbon fuel as to make life better for us.  <\/p>\n<p>Technology has developed new ways to generate energy that reduce or even eliminate the need for carbon fuels.  These include nuclear power, solar power, wind power, and more use of the old standby, hydroelectric power.  And yes, low-carbon fuels derived from solar power, i.e. biofuels.  And then there is the move towards more efficient ways of using energy, e.g. hybrid vehicles.  This is the hope for today&#8217;s \u201cgreen movement\u201d; that technology and governmental resolve can move humankind away from its dependence upon carbon fuels.  It provides hope that these exotic new ways of generating and using power will avoid the quandary of choosing lower living standards and \/ or lower population growth (or even population contraction) in order to avoid massive climate-based tragedies.  <\/p>\n<p>This is the subject for a LONG article, or even a book.  I hope someone is working on such a book.  Because I think that THIS is one of the KEY QUESTIONS in the current climate debate.  Yes, I said that I am not yet convinced that there even is a CO2 problem.  But I do think it&#8217;s a \u201cdefinite maybe\u201d, and thus I believe that the \u201cgreen tech salvation\u201d idea needs to be examined in fine detail.   Personally, I do not believe that \u201cgreen tech\u201d will allow the global population to reach 10 or 12 billion by 2050 with most everyone living at the standards that we are currently accustomed to in the US, Japan and Western Europe, and at the same time keep CO2 concentrations from going up about 50% (i.e., around 590 ppm, versus today&#8217;s 390; some scientists think that <a href=\"http:\/\/climateprogress.org\/2008\/04\/26\/is-450-ppm-or-less-politically-possible-part-0-the-alternative-is-humanitys-self-destruction\/#more-2740\" target-=\"target-\">450 is roughly the disaster threshold<\/a>, and 550 would clearly cause calamity).   <\/p>\n<p>Green tech is moving forward, but it is still very capital-intense.  You need to use a lot of energy to set it up, and most of that energy will need to come from carbon fuel.  The most potent form of green energy, i.e. nuclear power, has a lot of nasty side-effects.  Another promising avenue, i.e. increased efficiency, seems to have another interesting side-effect.  And that is, as we find more efficient ways to use our energy sources, we at the same time find new ways to use the energy that we saved.  E.g., hybrid cars \u2013 they are much more efficient, but hybrid technology will also keep many people from giving up their heavy SUV&#8217;s, as they will be cheaper to run with hybrid engines. <\/p>\n<p>Well, it&#8217;s an extremely complex situation, isn&#8217;t it.  Can a marriage of technology and liberal semi-socialist politics save the day (as President Obama would have us think)?  If not, do we use those powerful liberal semi-socialist governments to reduce living standards?  Or to stop and even reverse population growth?  Or do we let things go and do our best to mitigate the tragedies as they occur (as the free-market \/ conservative thinkers, the Ayn Rand-ers, might espouse)?  And just how sure are we that there will be such tragedies, honestly?<\/p>\n<p>And how do you honestly even wrap your mind around such huge issues?  (Sorry for the long spiel here; my next blog will be shorter, I promise).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In my quasi-intellectual meanderings on the global warming issue, I came across a 2009 article in the Journal of Health Science called \u201cPopulation is a Critical Factor for Global Carbon Dioxide Increase\u201d. The title almost says it all. But the article is still worth reading, as it is short and full of graphs that are [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/120"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=120"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/120\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4110,"href":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/120\/revisions\/4110"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=120"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=120"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=120"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}