{"id":5588,"date":"2015-07-31T08:26:14","date_gmt":"2015-07-31T13:26:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/?p=5588"},"modified":"2016-12-15T22:03:37","modified_gmt":"2016-12-16T03:03:37","slug":"losing-my-religion-by-nde","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jimgworld.com\/blog1\/?p=5588","title":{"rendered":"Losing My Religion By NDE"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Atlantic published an article not too long ago about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/features\/archive\/2015\/03\/the-science-of-near-death-experiences\/386231\/\" target=\"_blank\">near death experiences<\/a>, and the latest edition (July-August, 2015) published a few reader responses to it.  The author of the article, Gideon Lichfield, replied to these letters, and said something very interesting here.  To quote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s worth noting that some religious NDErs move away from their religion after the experience, because it can lead them to develop spiritual beliefs that conflict with their credos.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Whoa, now there&#8217;s a twist. You believe in God and follow a religion in order to live in accordance with that belief.  Then one day, you get a message from God &#8212; or at least you imagine that you do, I&#8217;m going to stay agnostic here as to whether NDE&#8217;s are real or not &#8212; and you decide that your old religion just doesn&#8217;t cut it anymore; that there&#8217;s more to spirituality than what you were used to.  <\/p>\n<p>But hey, why not?  If there is anything &#8220;substantial&#8221; about near death experiences, if not empirically &#8220;real&#8221;, it should convey a deeper and more mature understanding of the holy.  I did a quick search to find some stories about nominally religious people who have NDE&#8217;s and then learn to put their traditions into context and thus find bigger and more universal concepts of divinity.  There ain&#8217;t much out there; however, it turns out that Kevin Williams, a born-again Christian and NDE enthusiast \/ author who runs what is acclaimed to be the most comprehensive web site about NDEs, has accumulated of few similar stories.  Interestingly for someone who himself seems to be &#8220;very religious&#8221;, Mr. Williams<!--more--> has a page on his site entitled &#8220;<a href=\" http:\/\/www.near-death.com\/science\/research\/religion.html#a01\" target=\"_blank\">Religion is not as Important as Many People Believe<\/a>&#8220;.<\/p>\n<p>On this page, Williams talks about some people who claim to have experienced NDE&#8217;s, who likewise conclude that God is not quite what their religious peers had led them to believe.  Nor, by the same token, is God quite as impressed with Religion X (pick a religion, any religion) as Religion X&#8217;s adherents might have expected.  Williams quotes Dr. Liz Hale, another NDE researcher, who talks about a religious NDE experiencer who concludes that &#8220;the &#8216;God&#8217; of his religious background wasn&#8217;t anything like the reality.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>Another story regards a Christian minister from London named <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ismaili.net\/html\/modules.php?op=modload&#038;name=phpBB2&#038;file=viewtopic&#038;t=1367&#038;sid=2502758f68c6ff234380737914e4eabd\" target=\"_blank\">Ken Martin who had<\/a> a near-death experience. &#8220;Upon his return from his experience, he discovered that everything he had previously known &#8211; his ministry, his calling, everything &#8211; was insignificant in comparison to his experience with the afterlife.&#8221;  <\/p>\n<p>Sometimes you just can&#8217;t go home again &#8212; well, you can, but YOU are never the same, even if &#8220;home&#8221; still is.  Maybe a religious person&#8217;s NDE is like growing up and then re-visiting the classroom where they went to kindergarten.   It now seems so small, you couldn&#8217;t now sit in those tiny chairs; but when you were 5, it seemed so roomy and spacious.  <\/p>\n<p>Personally, I haven&#8217;t yet heard of an NDE case that clearly couldn&#8217;t be explained by at least one of the many <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scientificamerican.com\/article\/peace-of-mind-near-death\/\" target=\"_blank\">psychological and physiological explanations<\/a> that NDE critics put forth. However, if turns out that NDE-experiencers who are faithful adherents to a particular religious tradition come back to realize that their beloved traditions aren&#8217;t really all that important or infallible after all, i.e. that a divine reality would need to be a whole lot bigger than any human institution could grasp, then maybe there is something to it after all!!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Atlantic published an article not too long ago about near death experiences, and the latest edition (July-August, 2015) published a few reader responses to it. The author of the article, Gideon Lichfield, replied to these letters, and said something very interesting here. 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